During Julia Gillard's period as Prime Minister, it was obvious to me that the media wanted her head on a stick so I should be sceptical of what stories the media chooses to focus on. However, some people thought that they were getting an impartial view and just spouted Liberal party talking points that didn't make sense. Then when other idiots saw one of these people spouting crap and thought 'Julia got OWNED!', said idiot made this youtube video, proudly displaying his/her complete inability to understand the definition of 'owned.'
The top comment on this video with 23 thumbs up is 'How dare she (Julia Gillard) touch this wonderfully honest and brave woman and treat her like a complete dill. Its among the most disrespectful interactions I have ever seen from an Australian PM.'
Here's the video and a transcript that I wrote out after listening to the video. Read and/or watch yourself and see if you can tell whether it was Julia or the senior citizen being disrespectful. Everything that's not written in italics is commentary from me (as usual).
Senior citizen: I'd just like to ask one (question about the carbon tax).
Julia: Sure
Senior: (Sad tone of voice) Why did you lie to us?
Julia: Right, well I can talk to you about...
Senior: And why are you continuing to lie and say, you know, I didn't really mean to lie?
Probably because there is some confusion as to what the difference is between a carbon tax and a carbon pricing mechanism. Even Politifact was unable to get to the bottom of it after talking to various experts and there's no denying that carbon taxes and carbon prices are similar. But it's not a malicious lie. It should be obvious that flip-flopping is a politically damaging thing to do, and thus it was probably something that was forced under difficult circumstances, rather that something calculated and deliberate. I can't even imagine what you think the political benefit of lying about bringing in a carbon tax is so it seems like a strange assumption that you're making.
Lastly, there are degrees of severity in lies. Some lies hurt people, some lies don't hurt people and some lies actually help people. This would not have been a harmful lie. People get fully compensated on the carbon tax if they make less than $150,000 per year. I just don't understand where outrage comes from if no-one is being harmed, especially in a well-intentioned endeavour such as tackling global warming, which will do a lot more harm than a carbon tax if it gets out of control.
Julia: I can explain all of that to you.
Senior: I've listened to you for months. I've watched you in parliament, and you're still lying.
Julia: Well I can give you an answer right now if you'll let me. What I wanna do is put a price on carbon pollution. Big polluters are gonna pay...
Senior (shaking her head): I understand. I've heard this a hundred times.
You do realise that the point of asking a question is that you're supposed to LISTEN to the answer, right? If you just want to shove your dumb-arse narrow-minded view down someone else's throat, don't frame it as a question.
Julia: Well, if I could just finish so we'll have less of it in the atmosphere.
Senior: I understand that.
Julia: There's two... two main...
Senior (shaking her finger at Julia): I'm not stupid.
Not stupid, just off your meds.
Julia: No, no. No-one's suggesting that. There are two effective ways of doing it. One is a tax, a fixed price.
Senior (shaking her head again): Look Julia, I've heard you. I've heard you on QandA. I've heard you for over a year, but the thing that sticks in MY craw is you stood up and said 'there will be no carbon tax.'
Raw! Me angry! The TV and it tells me what to think and I obey! The TV told me to be angry about a trivial piece of nonsense, so I am! Please tell me what to think, Rupert Murdoch, please!
Julia: And I was talking...
Senior: And a few months later, it's all coming out, excuse me (angrily points at Julia's aid to keep him from interrupting). A few months later (dramatic tone) you've changed your mind.
OH MY GOD! SHE CHANGED HER MIND? That's it! Julia's EVIL! Julia only PRETENDS to be nice. She's ACTUALLY a scrawny demon with fangs, horns, pitchfork, tail, malicious red eyes, twirly moustache, Jewish nose, top hat, bow tie and a long cloak, who ties innocent conservatives to the railway track and waits for the train to crush them! THAT is why Julia reversed her stance on the carbon tax! I'm not thupid! I have thought this though!
Who the fuck cares if she changed her mind? What the fuck could this issue mean to you? Apparently you're such an empathetic person that your heart is breaking for the coal companies who have to pay $26 per tonne for all the shit that they're destroying the planet with! Boo-fucking-hoo!
Julia: No...
Senior: And...
Julia: No, I didn't change my mind, no. That's... If I can explain (Julia lowers the womans hand which is pointed at her)
Senior: Well how...
Julia: I did say... I did talk in the election campaign about the need to put a price on carbon.
Senior: yeh...yeh...
Julia: And I talked about what's called a cap-and-trade scheme where you cap the amount of carbon pollution...
Senior: And then at the very end you said 'there will be no carbon tax under my government.'
Julia: Absolutely I did say that. I talked in the election campaign about putting a cap on carbon pollution, an emissions trading scheme, we're gonna get there, via a temporary carbon tax
Senior: yeh...
Julia: To where I talked about in the election campaign. So it's a different route home than the one I thought we were going to use, but with the same outcome I talked about in the election.
Senior (shaking her hand as though scolding a child):You're still lying.
OWNED!...I guess.
It's a good thing that the video has the title 'Julia Gillard Owned by Senior Citizen because if you watch the video without reading that title, you might think that a senior citizen completely and ridiculously blew a trivial matter way out of proportion. However, since the title SAYS 'Julia Gillard owned by senior citizen', I guess that must mean that Julia Gillard was owned by a senior citizen. Uh-duh! Herp! Derp!
Julia (Putting her hand comfortingly on the woman's arm): Well, I didn't mean to mislead and I didn't forsee all of the circumstances that would happen in parliament, but um...We're gonna get there doing the right thing by our environment.
Senior: When you get in by manipulation, I'm sure it's not so good...
Yeh Julia! It was manipulation! You sat there in your smoke-filled room cackling and plotting to break the Australia public's heart by reversing your position on the carbon tax! You did it for the sheer sadistic joy of crushing our dreams and shattering our hopes against the rocks of never-ending despair! I'll never forgive you! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! ROAR! SNARL! HISS! GRRR! HATE! HATE! OOPS! Pooped my pants!
Julia: Well, yeh, you're making an assumption. I didn't mean to mislead anyone and we're gonna get where I want to go...
Senior: Yeh. Well, when you start telling the truth, I'll listen to you.
I think you've illustrated PERFECTLY that you can't know when a person is telling the truth if you're not listening, you closed-minded, brainwashed moron! You think that Julia manipulated you on the carbon tax? What kind of retarded bullshit hypothesis is that, you stupid, fucking waste-of-time idiot?
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