I've taken it upon myself to correct this bull-crap.
Could Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon and the rest of her insanely anti-Israel party explain those hundreds of rockets being fired at Israel from Gaza?
Wrong. YOU are insanely PRO-Israel. Which is why the Greens LOOK insanely anti - Israel to you.
You see, Rhiannon even this week was still claiming Gaza was ``the world’s biggest outdoor prison and . . . has been under blockade for quite some time’’.
Blockaded by Israel, that is, which Rhiannon wants to boycott ``as a way to promoting Palestinian human rights’’.
And it’s blockaded so wickedly that Greens leader Christine Milne on Tuesday tabled a motion in the Senate demanding the government get ``Israel to lift the blockade of Gaza’’.
Blockaded sooooooooooooo wickedly! Ooh I'm crying about the blockade that crippled the Palestinian economy and left them short of food and medicine! Wah! Wah!
Fuck you Bolt!
(Has Hamas, the Islamist terrorist group which seized power in Gaza five years ago, learned the lesson from this? That the quickest way to get the Greens to spruik your cause is to shoot lots of rockets at Jews?)
??????? I don't even know what to say to that. That's just stupid.
Hamas also 'seized power' by being democratically voted in by the way.
But, about that blockade, Senators. From where came the nearly 2000 rockets fired from Gaza into Israel since January, including some powerful enough to hit Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?
The answer? Many from Iran.
2,000 rockets which only killed a small handful of people. Iron Dome, Israel's air defense system, explodes a lot of the rockets in mid air. It's not like every rocket attack was the equivalent of 9/11 and Israel is just a big burning pile of dead bodies by now.
Whenever I hear someone talking about the number of rockets fired with no mention of the number of people killed I know it's to hype up Hamas' actions. Not that Hamas' terrorism isn't terrible (as is Israel's), but this is scaremongering.
Some blockade, which lets such weaponry get smuggled in. Perhaps that blockade isn’t as strict as Rhiannon claims—certainly not along Gaza’s border with Egypt, now controlled by the Hamas-friendly Muslim Brotherhood.
Perhaps the blockade isn't as strict as Rhiannon claims? PERHAPS you should find the answer to that query instead of treating that query as if it were an answer! Firstly, the Muslim Brotherhood are very new. The Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak was friendly with Israel and supportive of the blockade just a couple of years ago.
Israel has not just used the blockade to defend itself. The Wikileaks cables revealed that in 2008 Israel was using the blockade to keep Gaza on the brink of economic collapse and deliberately letting in just enough supplies as to keep the Palestinian people just above the level of humanitarian crisis. This caused 60% of the babies in Palestine to have anemia, 65% of the population to be food insecure and crushed the Palestinian economy, keeping them all prisoners. In 2012 (according to Wikipedia's sources) Israeli courts forced Israel's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) to release a document which detailed the exact number of calories Israel would allow into Gaza to avoid humanitarian crisis. This was then converted into daily truckloads. Israel didn't even stick to that number and let through LESS than was detailed.
Lee Rhiannon's speech which you claim to be responding to details many appalling effects of both the blockade and the occupation. 80 per cent of the population is dependent on international assistance. Over 1.5 million people live in Gaza and almost 1.2 million are refugees—Palestinians who have the legal right to return to their country of origin. At least two-thirds of Gazan households lack secure access to food. People are forced to make unacceptable trade offs, often having to choose between food or medicine or water for their families and 85 per cent of Gaza's fishing waters are totally or partially inaccessible due to Israeli military measures.http://lee-rhiannon.greensmps.org.au/content/video/speech-gaza-blockade-and-israel-palestine-conflict
Despite this, Israel continues to severely hamper recovery and reconstruction with restrictions on imports and exports. So I'd say you COULD describe the blockade as 'strict.'
Next question: If Gaza is the ``world’s biggest outdoor prison’’, strangled by a blockade so severe that Palestinians are left, as activists such as Professor Juan Cole like to claim, desperately short of food and medicine, why would Hamas be smuggling in rockets instead?
Because they want to free themselves from the prison by killing the prison guards. DUH! Idiot, you just described a scenario which gives them great incentives to smuggle in rockets. I think if I were in prison, a rocket that could help me blow the walls open and escape would be more useful than an extra sandwich!
Strange priorities, especially when rockets are not weapons of self-defence but of offence. Of terror. Which, of course, is the stock in trade of Hamas, pledged to Israel’s destruction.
Hamas pledge is stupid but it's not STRANGE to want to free yourself from prison as opposed to only making your prison conditions more bearable with more food. You have no empathy. You don't get their issue AT ALL. Allow me to sum it up for you- HAMAS DOESN'T LIKE BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO YOU NITWIT!
Good to see you say rockets are weapons of terror. I'm sure you won't say the exact opposite within this same article when Israel uses rockets.
Next question about that blockade you oppose, Senators Rhiannon and Milne: Can you now understand why Israel, while allowing in food, medicine and other goods, does try to stop imports to Gaza of weapons and material to build them? Why it’s so suspicious of what Hamas would do if left free to bring in whatever it wants?
TECHNICALLY they're letting in food and medicine if they allow in one breadcrumb and one aspirin. How MUCH food and medicine do they allow in? Not all of it. They've already turned Palestine into a shithole and they're still blocking useful resources.
The other part of your stupidity is, you actually think the Greens just want to leave Hamas to do whatever it wants? Right. You actually believe that the Greens position is that Hamas should blow up anything it wants? Well, that's a completely fair, objective framing of this issue...NOT!
'Uh- Duh! Hamas won't stop bombing for some unknown reason and I say Israel has a right to defend itself but Lee Rhiannon doesn't think so! Herp-a-derp! Derp! Derp!'
But the annoying thing is people make this argument all the time. It's not just Bolt! 'Israel has a right to defend itself.' Oh! Do they really? I was too stupid to realize that. Thank you for pointing it out. I didn't find your pointing out of the bleeding obvious patronizing at all!
I'm pretty sure that the Greens want Israel to negotiate peace THEN lift the blockade. Israel has the power to do that by giving back some of the land. That's the crux of the issue. Palestinians want their land back and Israel won't give it back.
I don't think Rhiannon wasn't saying that Israel should just get rid of the blockade in the middle of a war so Israel can be bombed. Although, if they did that they'd still have Iron Dome and the ability to bomb Hamas back a thousand times worse than Hamas can bomb them. This is due to the fact that they've got billions of dollars in military backing from the United States. That also seems like a pretty good deterrent.
It is not 'insanely anti-Israel' to say that Israel remove the blockade given that they have so much to deter Hamas already, and such massive potential to abuse their power with the blockade as well as the ability to (somewhat) placate Hamas by giving back the land (and returning to the 1967 borders.)
Don't act like Israel would be completely helpless without the blockade you disingenuous twat!
If Israel did not restrict dangerous imports to Gaza, would there now be more rockets or fewer? More dying or less?
Senators, doesn’t seeing Hamas fire off so many rockets make you at least consider how much mayhem would be unleashed if you really did manage to lift what blockade there still is?
YOU... ARE... A... FUCKING... RETARD!!!!
Last question: If Hamas put as much effort into developing Gaza as it does into smuggling rockets, wouldn’t its people be safer, richer and more trusted by its neighbours?
Would a Hamas that created jobs rather than rockets be more likely to persuade Israel it wanted peace, and not Israel’s destruction?
You shouldn't say 'last question', then immediately asked another question.
Also, this framing of Israel as the one wanting peace is off the mark. Israel and Hamas had a cease - fire in June 2008 and until Israel broke the cease-fire agreement by invading Gaza and killing half a dozen Hamas activists, Hamas didn't fire a single rocket.
You probably wish that Benjamin Netanyahu (the Israeli Prime Minister) was on stamps. That way you would have the honor of licking his backside!
Ask yourselves if you’ve become a dupe of terrorists rather than a voice for ``human rights’’.
Hang on, how did they demand peace? They bombed several Hamas targets and then mocked them about it on twitter. They weren't demanding peace they were shining Hamas on you lying cockroach!
And you're upset that it happened ONLY NOW? Gotcha. Israel should have bombed Palestine and egged them on with abuse sooner.
And if anyone thinks I’m being too hard on these allegedly well-meaning women, consider this morally bankrupt line from Milne’s Senate motion, the Greens’ final shame: The Greens have asked ``that the Senate note the disproportionate Israeli response in Gaza and that the parties to the conflict are not equivalent as Israel is the world’s fifth largest military power and Palestine has a weakened and constricted economy and is subject to restrictions on freedom of movement and goods in breach of international law’’.
What is grotesque about that paragraph is not what perhaps seems most obvious—that the Greens characterise this month’s fighting as between the ``military power’’ Israel and defenceless ``Palestine’’—when in fact Israel is finally defending itself after months of rocket attacks from Hamas terrorists.
Firstly, Israel is 'defending itself' in OCCUPIED areas. They've thrown people off their land and built on it threatening death if they're stopped, and when they get attacked for doing that they're JUST DEFENDING THEMSELVES! Isn't that fucking convenient! What a neat system you've got set up there!
Secondly, this particular action of 'defending itself' that you refer to involved Israel assassinating Hamas' military chief Ahmed al-Jabari with a rocket as well as a series of bombings that reportedly killed ten people including an 11-month-old baby and two girls under five years old, then mocking Hamas about the bombings on twitter. By the time the Greens made their speech over 100 Palestinians and three Israelis had died in the fighting that resulted from that incident. The two sides still hate each other and are still kill each other with nothing solved.
Now it's strange because you said in no uncertain terms earlier in this very article that 'rockets are not weapons of self-defense but of offence. Of terror.' Then a couple of paragraphs down you point to a political assassination with a rocket and say 'Israeli is finally defending itself.' Your inability to see your double standard is EPIC! It's pathological. You've got mental problems.
You should really ask yourself if you've become a DUPE OF THE TERRORISTS?! You should also ask yourself whether you've become a knuckle-dragging, chest-pounding, tribalistic, macho arse-clown!
No, most repulsive is that the Greens believe Israel’s self-defence is ``disproportionate’’—as in not enough Jews have died for Israel to now drop so many bombs on Hamas targets.
So excuse me if I ask Rhiannon and Milne one more question, after all: How many Jews must die before you let them defend themselves?
Some—including many in Hamas—think even six million wasn’t enough.
What’s your figure, ladies?
Whoa! Just when I think you can't get dumber you put an extra twist of idiocy on it! First you say that rockets are weapons of terror. Then you say that anyone against Israel using rockets on Palestine is a Hamas-supporting Nazi who wants Jews to die! It's obvious that Milne meant that too many Palestinians died rather than not enough Jews died, you insane, burbling, pathological, narrow-minded, Reich-wing, conservatard, Zionist shill, thundering, category-five moron whose ability to put words in people's mouths is second only to his ability to put bullshit in his reader's heads!
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